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		<title>By: tangerinelemons</title>
		<link>http://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-consequences-of-legitimizing-nonsense/#comment-9296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tangerinelemons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take offense to this... smarties are WAY more effective than homeopathy :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take offense to this&#8230; smarties are WAY more effective than homeopathy <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-consequences-of-legitimizing-nonsense/#comment-7403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 03:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[900Mhz may indeed have a medicinal effect.  Ever heard of resonate frequency and the treatment of cancer?  Guess when it was discovered?  1930!  So one needs to ask Big $ pharma why they waited so long to use an obvious treatment?  Big $ perhaps?  Resonate frequency medicine may well indeed put your local pharmacy out of business. After all, we can map the human genome.  Next step is map resonate frequency of all known pathogens.  The beauty of this is that you can not monopolize it. Wouldn&#039;t it be too cool to be able to download and app that cures the common cold?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>900Mhz may indeed have a medicinal effect.  Ever heard of resonate frequency and the treatment of cancer?  Guess when it was discovered?  1930!  So one needs to ask Big $ pharma why they waited so long to use an obvious treatment?  Big $ perhaps?  Resonate frequency medicine may well indeed put your local pharmacy out of business. After all, we can map the human genome.  Next step is map resonate frequency of all known pathogens.  The beauty of this is that you can not monopolize it. Wouldn&#8217;t it be too cool to be able to download and app that cures the common cold?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Tricque</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Tricque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please cite the passage where Scott says you cannot affect blood chemistry through diet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please cite the passage where Scott says you cannot affect blood chemistry through diet</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife was just diagnosed with cancer.  So she had an operation but it did not produce “clear margins” and this implies more surgery.  So after my wife goes through weeks of painful recovery, the engineer in me gets to  asks the  Dr. why they didn&#039;t just do one or two additional biopics instead since they knew where the lump was and bypass the potential for complications, expense pain?  Dr. said it wouldn&#039;t have helped.   So now Dr. is talking about Chemo.  So the pain-in-the-rear engineer in me asks the  know-it-all Dr. another stupid question.  If you couldn’t tell with an additional Biopsy, how will you know that the chemo is working?  Dr., without blinking(I kid you not), said “you can&#039;t”.   To coin a phrase, sounds like the chemo folks are “legitimizing nonsense”.  

By the way, I heard (I hope this person was wrong) your buddies at q. watchers  said there is no such thing as targeted chemo.  Ah, maybe someone would like to have a sit down chat regarding Pet Scans and branch out from there!  Or am I the only one who can add 2 + 2 ? 

I also seem to recall reading on your website that you can&#039;t effect what&#039;s going on in your blood through diet.  Funny thing regarding my national brand pharmacy is that they have almost an entire shelf dedicated to helping diabetics control their blood sugar levels through, get this, diet.  I know, I know, it must be some grand scheme by the folks at Glucerna to get rich off of poor ignorant diabetics. 

While some stuff on your website sounds legitimate, you sound more like a propaganda machine for Big Pharma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife was just diagnosed with cancer.  So she had an operation but it did not produce “clear margins” and this implies more surgery.  So after my wife goes through weeks of painful recovery, the engineer in me gets to  asks the  Dr. why they didn&#8217;t just do one or two additional biopics instead since they knew where the lump was and bypass the potential for complications, expense pain?  Dr. said it wouldn&#8217;t have helped.   So now Dr. is talking about Chemo.  So the pain-in-the-rear engineer in me asks the  know-it-all Dr. another stupid question.  If you couldn’t tell with an additional Biopsy, how will you know that the chemo is working?  Dr., without blinking(I kid you not), said “you can&#8217;t”.   To coin a phrase, sounds like the chemo folks are “legitimizing nonsense”.  </p>
<p>By the way, I heard (I hope this person was wrong) your buddies at q. watchers  said there is no such thing as targeted chemo.  Ah, maybe someone would like to have a sit down chat regarding Pet Scans and branch out from there!  Or am I the only one who can add 2 + 2 ? </p>
<p>I also seem to recall reading on your website that you can&#8217;t effect what&#8217;s going on in your blood through diet.  Funny thing regarding my national brand pharmacy is that they have almost an entire shelf dedicated to helping diabetics control their blood sugar levels through, get this, diet.  I know, I know, it must be some grand scheme by the folks at Glucerna to get rich off of poor ignorant diabetics. </p>
<p>While some stuff on your website sounds legitimate, you sound more like a propaganda machine for Big Pharma.</p>
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		<title>By: Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-consequences-of-legitimizing-nonsense/#comment-7210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iqbal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who says homeopathy is a belief? It is people like you who have no clue and become medical experts after reading articles written by people none of whom is a doctor.

http://www.homeopathyforflu.com/dewey.pdf
http://homeoint.org/morrell/londonhh/outbreak.htm

This is good reading]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says homeopathy is a belief? It is people like you who have no clue and become medical experts after reading articles written by people none of whom is a doctor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.homeopathyforflu.com/dewey.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.homeopathyforflu.com/dewey.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://homeoint.org/morrell/londonhh/outbreak.htm" rel="nofollow">http://homeoint.org/morrell/londonhh/outbreak.htm</a></p>
<p>This is good reading</p>
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		<title>By: Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/the-consequences-of-legitimizing-nonsense/#comment-7179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iqbal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. David Eddy is not a skeptic. You have to read his contribution to medical science to understand this. 

&quot;The problem is that we don&#039;t know what we are doing,&quot; says Dr. Eddy. Even today, with a high-tech health-care system that costs the nation $2 trillion a year, there is little or no evidence that many widely used treatments and procedures actually work better than various cheaper alternatives.

This judgment pertains to a shocking number of conditions or diseases, from cardiovascular woes to back pain to prostate cancer. During his long and controversial career proving that the practice of medicine is more guesswork than science, Eddy has repeatedly punctured cherished physician myths. He showed, for instance, that the annual chest X-ray was worthless, over the objections of doctors who made money off the regular visit. He proved that doctors had little clue about the success rate of procedures such as surgery for enlarged prostates.

Indeed, when he began taking on medicine&#039;s sacred cows, Eddy liked to cite a figure that only 15% of what doctors did was backed by hard evidence. A great many doctors and health-care quality experts have come to endorse Eddy&#039;s critique. And while there has been progress in recent years, most of these physicians say the portion of medicine that has been proven effective is still outrageously low -- in the range of 20% to 25%. &quot;We don&#039;t have the evidence [that treatments work], and we are not investing very much in getting the evidence,&quot; says Dr. Stephen C. Schoenbaum, executive vice-president of the Commonwealth Fund and former president of Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Inc. 

Based on his results, the American Cancer Society changed its guidelines. &quot;He&#039;s smart as hell, with a towering clarity of thought,&quot; says Stanford health economist Allan Enthoven. Dr. William H. Herman, director of the Michigan Diabetes Research &amp; Training Center, has a competing computer model that clashes with Eddy&#039;s. Nonetheless, he says, &quot;Dr. Eddy is one of my heroes. He&#039;s sort of the father of health economics -- and he might be right.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. David Eddy is not a skeptic. You have to read his contribution to medical science to understand this. </p>
<p>&#8220;The problem is that we don&#8217;t know what we are doing,&#8221; says Dr. Eddy. Even today, with a high-tech health-care system that costs the nation $2 trillion a year, there is little or no evidence that many widely used treatments and procedures actually work better than various cheaper alternatives.</p>
<p>This judgment pertains to a shocking number of conditions or diseases, from cardiovascular woes to back pain to prostate cancer. During his long and controversial career proving that the practice of medicine is more guesswork than science, Eddy has repeatedly punctured cherished physician myths. He showed, for instance, that the annual chest X-ray was worthless, over the objections of doctors who made money off the regular visit. He proved that doctors had little clue about the success rate of procedures such as surgery for enlarged prostates.</p>
<p>Indeed, when he began taking on medicine&#8217;s sacred cows, Eddy liked to cite a figure that only 15% of what doctors did was backed by hard evidence. A great many doctors and health-care quality experts have come to endorse Eddy&#8217;s critique. And while there has been progress in recent years, most of these physicians say the portion of medicine that has been proven effective is still outrageously low &#8212; in the range of 20% to 25%. &#8220;We don&#8217;t have the evidence [that treatments work], and we are not investing very much in getting the evidence,&#8221; says Dr. Stephen C. Schoenbaum, executive vice-president of the Commonwealth Fund and former president of Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Inc. </p>
<p>Based on his results, the American Cancer Society changed its guidelines. &#8220;He&#8217;s smart as hell, with a towering clarity of thought,&#8221; says Stanford health economist Allan Enthoven. Dr. William H. Herman, director of the Michigan Diabetes Research &amp; Training Center, has a competing computer model that clashes with Eddy&#8217;s. Nonetheless, he says, &#8220;Dr. Eddy is one of my heroes. He&#8217;s sort of the father of health economics &#8212; and he might be right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Iqbal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iqbal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Homeopathy has no scientific basis of the science that we seem to know today. And is that the last word? No new tenet left?

&quot; ..Glad you you had them, so none of the 22 in your extended family suffered polio, measles, smallpox, etc.&quot;

This is a big misconception for those who do not understand homeopathy. 

Our maid servant&#039;s daughter had small pox as did my brother. Both were treated with homeopathy. Both are alive and fine today except for some marks left behind. My son had measles after he was vaccinated for it. He was treated with homeopathic remedies.

 ......We demand that it stand up to rigorous, scientific evaluation. Homeopathy has not stood up to this scrutiny; in fact it cannot.....

This is the basic argument when a medicine is to behave like a drug. Not the question why a drug should not behave as a medicine-  a complete cure and not suppression of disease that requires the drug to be taken indefinitely, no adverse effects requiring recall, not creating a bigger problem (antibiotics).

......Either you wish to prove homeoepathy using the method, or you stand outside society......

Which society? If data is something to go by, the society using alternative medicines is growing faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeopathy has no scientific basis of the science that we seem to know today. And is that the last word? No new tenet left?</p>
<p>&#8221; ..Glad you you had them, so none of the 22 in your extended family suffered polio, measles, smallpox, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a big misconception for those who do not understand homeopathy. </p>
<p>Our maid servant&#8217;s daughter had small pox as did my brother. Both were treated with homeopathy. Both are alive and fine today except for some marks left behind. My son had measles after he was vaccinated for it. He was treated with homeopathic remedies.</p>
<p> &#8230;&#8230;We demand that it stand up to rigorous, scientific evaluation. Homeopathy has not stood up to this scrutiny; in fact it cannot&#8230;..</p>
<p>This is the basic argument when a medicine is to behave like a drug. Not the question why a drug should not behave as a medicine-  a complete cure and not suppression of disease that requires the drug to be taken indefinitely, no adverse effects requiring recall, not creating a bigger problem (antibiotics).</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;Either you wish to prove homeoepathy using the method, or you stand outside society&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Which society? If data is something to go by, the society using alternative medicines is growing faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Tricque</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Tricque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Is there a science beyond what you know today? Einstein’s non acceptance of quantum theory was based upon his knowledge of physics. If a great physicist could be wrong about science, what are you?” You mistake how science works: Einstein wasn&#039;t wrong about science. His hypothesis was proven wrong &lt;b&gt;by still better science&lt;/b&gt;. Homeopathy has no scientific backing at all. And believing in something without evidence, hoping that at some point in the future it might be discovered, is believing in fairy tales and irrational.

“other than mandatory vaccinations during childhood” Vaccinations are scientific medicine. Glad you you had them, so none of the 22 in your extended family suffered polio, measles, smallpox, etc. and are still with us, uninjured, on the earth today.

“paint everything other than the conventional medical system as useless” This is once again faulty logic: a red herring. We do not think everything else is useless. We demand that it stand up to rigorous, scientific evaluation. Homeopathy has not stood up to this scrutiny; in fact it cannot.

“the conventional system is too weak to be a yard stick for measuring other systems.” Once again, faulty logic: special pleading. The scientific method — itself continually improving — has proven its worth time and time again. It has resulted in the computers we are using to converse right now to the vaccinations that prevented your child diseases. There is no other way. Either you wish to prove homeoepathy using the method, or you stand outside society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Is there a science beyond what you know today? Einstein’s non acceptance of quantum theory was based upon his knowledge of physics. If a great physicist could be wrong about science, what are you?” You mistake how science works: Einstein wasn&#8217;t wrong about science. His hypothesis was proven wrong <b>by still better science</b>. Homeopathy has no scientific backing at all. And believing in something without evidence, hoping that at some point in the future it might be discovered, is believing in fairy tales and irrational.</p>
<p>“other than mandatory vaccinations during childhood” Vaccinations are scientific medicine. Glad you you had them, so none of the 22 in your extended family suffered polio, measles, smallpox, etc. and are still with us, uninjured, on the earth today.</p>
<p>“paint everything other than the conventional medical system as useless” This is once again faulty logic: a red herring. We do not think everything else is useless. We demand that it stand up to rigorous, scientific evaluation. Homeopathy has not stood up to this scrutiny; in fact it cannot.</p>
<p>“the conventional system is too weak to be a yard stick for measuring other systems.” Once again, faulty logic: special pleading. The scientific method — itself continually improving — has proven its worth time and time again. It has resulted in the computers we are using to converse right now to the vaccinations that prevented your child diseases. There is no other way. Either you wish to prove homeoepathy using the method, or you stand outside society.</p>
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		<title>By: fearlessanalyst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fearlessanalyst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Pharmaceuticals&#039; are not &quot;science&quot; - they are just another profit-oriented industry.  What sometimes passes for reports, are just clever marketing.  Often the actual scientific studies go against pharmaceuticals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Pharmaceuticals&#8217; are not &#8220;science&#8221; &#8211; they are just another profit-oriented industry.  What sometimes passes for reports, are just clever marketing.  Often the actual scientific studies go against pharmaceuticals.</p>
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		<title>By: fearlessanalyst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fearlessanalyst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess a believer is a believer is a believer!  Iqbal, &quot;science&quot; is not a religion or a &#039;belief system&#039; - it&#039;s a method or approach to analysis.  Otherwise we&#039;re down to just believing in something (regardless of evidence) just &#039;because you say so&#039;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess a believer is a believer is a believer!  Iqbal, &#8220;science&#8221; is not a religion or a &#8216;belief system&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s a method or approach to analysis.  Otherwise we&#8217;re down to just believing in something (regardless of evidence) just &#8216;because you say so&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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