Indeed. Problem is, a qualification from 1700s isn’t considered particularly current.

Venkatesh, you are amusing.

VENKATESH CS

If we can fit rational thinking into the religious framework without directly challenging cherished beliefs, perhaps more people will learn more about science. I used to want everyone to become an atheist, but I’d settle for higher levels of critical thinking.

Can you tell us what you believe ‘natural remedies’ are?

If you believe that homeopathy falls into this category, can you explain what is natural about taking a plant/mineral/any other substance/non-substance, grinding it up in alcohol or ‘pure’ water, shaking it (or banging it against a bible), diluting some more, more banging, more diluting, yet more banging…

If you believe it to be ‘natural’ because of the way it works ‘naturally’ with the body, please explain why all that diluting and banging are necessary.

Natural medicines, like homeopathy may seem like they work because sometimes the best course of action is to let your body heal itself. Homeopathy just gives you something to do so you can put your mind at ease while you heal naturally. This would have the exact same outcome if you did nothing at all. So, how is that effective treatment? It seems like a waste of money to me.

so you yourself says prescription lists every side effects, that means it has side-effects all you agree. still you are left with no choice but to take such medicines. so one problem supressed, another problem crops-up. so u consider it as scientific.
natural medicines like homoeopathy not used in crude form, it is potentized, only medicinal efficacy there which do not harm you any way. follow the law of nature then you will know it is curable or not
venkatesh cs

I’m going to be mentioning North America a lot, because that’s where I live, not because I think it’s better. I just don’t know how things are done in India at all.

“so called proven toxic chemical based medicines experimented on animals first”

Actually, in a petri dish first… Or in some cases, worked out on paper. We now understand diseases on a molecular level, and can diagnose, treat and in some cases cure them with this understanding. We move on to animal testing as a necessity, because (in general) we value animal life less than humans, that’s why we eat animals and not each other.

“before releasing to market how many people doied , what negative reaction that had is never disclosed”

If it’s never been disclosed, then how do you know it happened?

There are plenty of cases where negative side effects are not hidden. In fact in the USA, every TV commercial selling prescription drugs lists every side effect, and references to independent studies are on the screen for all to see.

“you claim scentific, but incidence of diabetes and cancer cases are increasing day by day. why it so?”

Two things, population growth, and diet. In North America, there is a huge portion of the population that can only afford low-nutrition, high-calorie foods. As a result most people in North America are over weight. Obesity (or over weight) leads to a whole host of problems, mostly cancer and diabetes and cardiovascular issues.

“Natural medicines do not need scientific evidence because it acts naturally, do not cause side-effects.”

This is too vague. Aspirin is “natural”, it’s derived from the bark of a willow tree. Blowfish poison is also “natural” but will kill you if you ingest it. Crude oil is “natural”, and it’s byproducts are used in the production of almost everything… Actually, everything we use to diagnose and treat disease is “natural”, in that it’s made up of chemicals that have been tested and proven to work effectively to treat certain kinds of illness.

A “Natural Medicine” that doesn’t require scientific evidence and is not chemical based is ‘Super-Natural Medicine’, and isn’t bound by the laws of logic that science based medicine follows. But there is a problem with this way of thinking:

It means that anyone can make a claim about “natural medicine” and without testing it you have to accept that person’s word that it works. In North America, we call these people “Snake Oil Salesmen”.

In the past there were people called ‘peddlers’ who went from town to town making all sorts of fantastic claims about the products they were selling, but when the townsfolk bought their products and they didn’t work, the peddler was long gone and didn’t have to answer to anyone for his con-job.

Now-a-days, we ask people to prove it works, because a lot of us understand so much more about the natural world, and we’re able to spot a dishonest claim a lot sooner. That’s just a part of being “sceptical”. You can’t trust anyone who thrusts anything at you expecting you to buy it on face value. You need to investigate a little further to see if it’s right for you. The majority of people who take prescription medication in North America know the risks, because they’ve done their homework.